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Guideline for job postings

Postby la dieu bong » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:37 pm

Job postings from agents are not allowed on forum.

Postings in box "Việc làm" should include the following information in order to avoid any ambiguity and misunderstanding:

1. Company Background
… "A company dealing in cosmetics, based in Singapore, headquartered in Raffles Place…" would be substantial.

2. Application deadline
It would be better with a clearly stated date (DD/MM/YY) instead of: “Close as soon as position filled”… or “send in Resume ASAP” …

3. Job title
… As the title for our box “Need CEOs or toilet cleaners, please post it here”…

4. Job description: (for MLM, please state clearly)
Skills, experience required, contract/ permanent basis, any timeline…

5. Payment type (fixed or commission) /amount range
6. Contact details for application

Proclaim:

Above is just a guideline. Feel free to add on or omit one or some categories if “that‘s all you could reveal”, it helps hundreds of us here already.

Thank you for your precious job sharing information!
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Postby dumbledore » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:25 am

should we not allow MLM postings?
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Postby la dieu bong » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:56 pm

Tough question! :|

The law even doesn't state that MLM is illegal. So if postings (including those on MLM), once clearly state all the points from guidelines, the choice is left to forum patrons to decide whether they want to do the job. Guideline is only to avoid those postings on illusive or ambiguous jobs.
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Postby dumbledore » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:57 am

Mình ko cho là ko cho post ở box này thôi, chứ ko cấm trên toàn forum, vì MLM ko phải "job" như kiểu mọi người thường nghĩ. Ngoài ra nên set là phải viết rõ đây là MLM job, vì an toàn của member thôi.

Ví dụ:
1. Company Background
… "MNC dealing in health & slimming products, based in Singapore, headquartered in Raffles Place…"

2. Application deadline…
31/12/2006, but will also consider application after that

3. Job title
Sales associate, can be promoted to supervisor if perform well.

4. Job description:
Part time, can work from home.

5. Payment type:
From 25% to 50% commission, plus bonus.

6. Contact details for application
abczxy@yahoo.com


Đoán biết công ty nào hông? ;;)
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Postby la dieu bong » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:18 pm

My view is: The information provided from your simulated post is considered inadequate. The basic points are given: It 's a sales post
and totally commission-based (which is advised to be alert, members :|).

However, the job description is ambiguous. It 's a "sales job", and it 's "work from home". Data-entry maybe, but sales???does it mean online sale? telemarketing? or inviting customers back home ;), or selling to housemates :))?

On the other hand, if the post involves depositing money at entrance, recruiting people for network, which are not stated, the job description hence is not substantial. We would expect feedback from our friends for all these ambiguity and misunderstanding afterwards then.

After all, provided that the information about the job is substantially stated and not misleading in any forms, the choice should be left to readers to decide. I believe in letting each individual having his/her own judgement with facts provided (not half facts) , not spoonfeeding them with someone else's labeling of what is bad, what is not.

For your suggestion, since it would make things easier, I would specify a "for MLM, please clearly state" next to JOB SUSCRIPTION. Thank you for feedback :D.
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Postby dumbledore » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:37 pm

Ừm, vậy nếu ko state thì move sang quảng cáo nhé, vậy tốt hơn.

Sở dĩ anh cứ push chuyện này là vì đây là chuyện serious, rút kinh nghiệm từ chuyện năm vừa rồi mình phải actively alert cho mọi người chứ ko fải để xảy ra rồi mới lo cứu. Job anh post vậy ko thể bảo là ko đủ thông tin, vì nhiều part time job thật sự cho đem về nhà bán, sales là 1 popular position trong mọi công ty, ai cũng gọi là sales thôi, còn students thì có thể xách hàng, tickets về tự sell lấy rồi lấy tiền.

Cãi lý thì ko bao giờ xong, vì MLMer làm gì cũng dám làm thôi, cùng lắm thì ghi tele-marketing, nói chung sẵn sàng làm mọi cách để approach prospects, những vụ này ở các forum lớn khác (của Sing) đều experienced cả, nên họ đều chặn trước. Em cũng nên đưa thêm 1 rule là nếu thấy job nào nghi ngờ mod có quyền hỏi thêm details, nếu ko cung cấp hoặc ko chính xác (dựa trên feedbacks của members) thì move đi hoặc delete, or even ban nick. Chuyện này của cả community chứ ko đơn giản chỉ là forum nên nhiều lúc ko thể "should be left to readers to decide it", dựa trên những gì đã xảy ra.

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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby Dina » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:11 am

MLM là kí j mà nghe có vẻ ghê thía
CHEAP, NICE JAPANESS, KOREAN FASHION IN SINGAPORE http://yuni-shop.com/
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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby marknguyen » Thu May 07, 2009 11:37 am

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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby hieunguyennz » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:19 pm

Mình nghĩ MLM consider là business opportunities chứ không phải jobs :-?
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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby hanhbt_vng » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:31 pm

:x :x :x :x :x :x thx so much
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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby lvhmi » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:31 pm

Admin cho hỏi, tại sao topic của em bị lock, không rõ nguyên nhân
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=79712&p=777344#p777344
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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby shukuraido » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:21 pm

up................
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Re: Guideline for job postings

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Re: Guideline for job postings

Postby anhtran19932111 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:11 pm

rút kinh nghiệm từ chuyện năm vừa rồi mình phải actively alert cho mọi người chứ ko fải để xảy ra rồi mới lo cứu.
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